Marlin 1894C: Discreet Urban Carbine

The 357 Magnum when fired from a carbine just about doubles its kinetic energy. Every load I tested picked up 300fps or more from the handy Marlin Carbine. This increase in energy means nothing if you do not chose the right bullet for the job or can’t produce well aimed shots. Like most anything bullet development has continued to get better over time and many of them are capable of being shot out of a carbine. Unfortunately the barn burning 110gr and 125gr bullets of today shot out of a carbine has proven to explode on impact and lack sufficient penetration. Knowing this I decided to only range test 158gr factory and reloaded ammunition out of different barrel lengths.

With the opinion that multiple firearms chambered for the same caliber is still relevant today I mustered up a few revolvers — Ruger Security Six with a 2inch barrel, Smith and Wesson 686+ 4inch barrel and a rare Smith and Wesson 686+ with unfluted cylinder and 7inch barrel.

Ruger Security Six

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?S&W 686+

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Rare S&W 686+

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Pistol Barrel Length Ammunition – Powder-Manual Bullet Weight Bullet Type Velocity FPS Average Velocity FPS ES SD
Marlin 1894C 18′ Reload 2400 – 13.8gr 158gr Berry Plated Low1566 1583 26 9
1585
1585
Hi1592
1587
S&W 686+ .005 Cylinder Gap 7′ Reload 2400 – 13.8gr 158gr Berry Plated 1269 1240 121 55
1186
1275
Hi 1297
Low 1176
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Marlin 1894C 18′ Factory 180gr Remington 180gr JHP 1591 1572 67 27
1579
1576
Hi 1592
Low 1525
S&W 686+ .005 Cylinder Gap 7′ Factory 180gr Remington 180gr JHP 1246 1232 42 16
Hi 1249
1226
1233
Low 1207
Marlin 1894C 18′ Factory 158gr Blazer 158gr JSP Hi 1839 1817 45 17
1819
1826
1809
Low 1794
S&W 686+ .005 Cylinder Gap 7′ Factory 158gr Blazer 158gr JSP Low 1326 1363 83 39
1404
1348
Hi 1409
1332
Ruger Security Six .003 Cylinder Gap 2′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP 1138 1124 112 43
1141
1134
Low 1049
Hi 1161
Marlin 1894C 18′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP 1501 1501 51 18
1503
Hi 1527
1501
Low 1476
Ruger Security Six .003 Cylinder Gap 2′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 880 894 148 79
865
948
964
816
Marlin 1894C 18′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 1373 1397 146 58
1328
1474
1373
1438
S&W 686+ .004 Cylinder Gap 4′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP Low 1201 1225 55 22
1206
1232
1234
Hi 1256
Marlin 1894C 18′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP 1501 1501 51 18
1503
Hi 1527
1501
Low 1476
S&W 686+ .004 Cylinder Gap 4′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 1031 1035 120 49
1071
1062
1062
951
Marlin 1894C 18′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 1373 1397 146 58
1328
1474
1373
1438
S&W 686+ .005 Cylinder Gap 7′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP 1274 1271 11 4
1271
1266
1271
1277
Marlin 1894C 18′ Factory Fiocchi 158gr JHP 1501 1501 51 18
1503
Hi 1527
1501
Low 1476
S&W 686+ .005 Cylinder Gap 7′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 1068 1132 117 56
1153
1185
1179
1077
Marlin 1894C 18′ Reload Alliant2400 12.4gr 158gr Rainier Plated 1373 1397 146 58
1328
1474
1373
1438

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7 comments

Steve Hart

I have the same rifle, including the exact same sight set up. Of all of my rifles it is by far my favorite. Accurate, easy to operate, easy to reload for.

I cast my own bullets and it makes for a great day at the range with low velocity loads for kids all the way to “hammer’ loads for deer and hogs.

Great write-up, thank you.

SD3

“Discreet Urban Carbine”. The original “DUC of Death”…
I bought a Rossi 92 in .357 with a 16” barrel as a companion rifle for my 686*. Absolutely love it. Runs all .357 & .38s flawlessly.

jimmie

I would love one, but good luck finding one.

nate

Not to nitpick, but the quote about “load on Sunday and shoot all week” actually referred to the Henry 1860, which had a 16 shot capacity.

Also, in a SHTF situation, does it really matter how “discreet” your gun looks?

robert

The marlin 1894 in 357 mag., needs a longer barrel same as the model 1894 in caliber 44mag. The gun would hold better on the target, and look better to.

I rather like the marlin in 357 mag, but I like the looks of the 44 mag with it’s longer barrel a lot better.

SoNH shooter

@Robert – While I did originally think like you did I then found several ballistic sites that showed 16 to 18 inch barrels producing the better velocities for .357 rounds. After 17/18 inches the velocities began to slow a bit indicating that 20 inch barrels (while looking better) might not produce ballistic excellence for the .357.
I did not do the research and testing myself by relied on some of the more read websites and ammo manufacturers. If I was buying today I’d go no longer than an 18inch barrel.

Jim

Coming a bit late to this discussion but will throw in my two cent just for chuckles.

I’ve been shooting this carbine for decades and have only two complaints about it.

One: the ‘famous Marlin jam’. This occurs when the cartridge carrier hangs up when loading. Not every carbine has this problem, yet it’s easy to resolve. Cowboy shooters remove the carrier assembly and solder or glue on a piece of jigsaw blade (hardened steel) to the underside, file to final shape and reinstall the carrier assembly.

My next complaint has to do with the barrel. Regardless the length, the barrel seems to be made of softer steel than a military barrel, as well as being thinner. As with all thin barrels, it tends to heat after a dozen rounds or so, at which time the POI devolves to a shotgun pattern. Of course, I’ve seen this occur with many rifles so is inherent with all barrels. Just let it cool down and happiness reappears.

All in all, this is, as the author noted, a very fine rifle for cowboy shooting, small game,deer hunting– within range limits– and an excellent plinker and training rifle for newcomers.

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